Monday, August 24, 2015

DISHWASHER SAFE?

by Kate Collins


I've loved the convenience of automatic dishwashers since the early 1980s, maybe because I'd been the chief dishwasher from the age of twelve. I know there are those who enjoy washing their dishes by hand because it's one of those mindless, relaxing tasks that lets the mind drift.

My mind drifts too much as it is, so back to the dishwasher. Before I moved to my current house, I had dish drawers, 2 of them, by Fisher-Paykel, but they kept malfunctioning and needing repairing so we finally replaced them with a Bosch. I loved my Bosch.

But then came the move to a new house in a development where you don't get to choose your brand, just the price point within the brand. So I upgraded the basic GE to a GE Profile. And two years into using it, I'm disappointed. My plates and flatware come out with fine debris baked on. I can and do scrape it off with my thumbnail. That's no fun. And of course the warranty is up, so I'll have to bite the bullet and call the repairman out again.

He knows the way. Within the first two months of my moving in, he was out twice to fix my new GE Profile microwave that blew out the motherboard. Twice!  He told me it was a bad batch from China. Not what I wanted to hear, btw. But so far, the last one has been fine.

But back to the problem -- I've checked the water heater seating and it's at the recommended 120 degrees. I've bought more powerful dishwasher pods, filled the side dispenser with Finish, and rinsed my plates with hot water, which I shouldn't have to do. And still they come out with that fine debris on them (remnants of almond butter and cinnamon, usually).

I'll let the repairman check it out and then, if it keeps happening, I will replace it. I'll probably go back to the Bosch but I'm open to suggestion.  Any advice on what to do about my debris problem would also be welcome.

Happy Monday!


34 comments:

Anonymous said...

I'm one of those people who like to wash my dishes by hand, primarily because I have a small amount of arthritis and the hot water makes my hands feel good. However, I am practical enough that when I remodeled my kitchen which had a dishwasher that was unusable, I capped the water and electrical feeds, had a separate box the size of a standard dishwasher put in, and put doors on the space so I can keep the recycling and garbage cans away from the cat(s). When my house is sold, the new owners can simply buy a dishwasher and hook it up. Kate, it's crazy that you essentially have to wash the dishes by hand only to put them in the dishwasher. Cordella

Denise Zendel said...

I can't help with the dirt problem, but I can suggest that the next time you buy a dishwasher, take at least one of your current plates with you. Some dishwasher brands are very narrow, and it would be horrible to fall in love with a machine only to find out the plates are too thick to fit in the space provided.

Kate Collins said...

I know!! It doesn't make sense. I may as well add suds and simply wash them. But what a great idea to put your cans in that space, Cordella! Brilliant!

Kate Collins said...

Good point! I assumed all dishwashers were created equal when it came to space. LOL!

Leann Sweeney said...

We moved into the new house and I bought a top of the line Kenmore Elite which is probably made by Whirlpool. Who knows? BUT it is the BEST dishwasher I have ever had. You can put baked on lasagna remnants in there and the dish will be perfectly clean. I had a Kitchenaid before that which was also excellent. But the Kitchenaid fridge just went on the fritz. It's computer heavy as they all are these days and I am betting this is going to cost some major money to fix.

Tonette said...

Replace it; trust me.I used to work for an appliance sales and service place, (accounts and booking service calls). The only appliance GE ever made that was decent was their refrigeration, esp. freezers, and that was long before they were made in China.(There is a big GE manufacturing plant 40 miles from me where many of our neighbors work, but no one here buys what they make!) I am a little behind in the quality of appliances any more.I am very disappointed in my Whirlpool, (which I later found was made in China). I think Kitchen Aide may still be decent; Sears may still be OK. Amana appliances used to be superior; I think they are still good, albeit a bit pricey. Try to get one with a garbage disposal in it. They don't handle big foods, but they will get rid of the 'debris'. I think that's why I am disappointed in this one. I have a portable one because I didn't want to give up cabinet space, but if I had it to do over again,I'd get a built-in.
Most appliances come in standard widths, but here are , indeed, several standards. That is good advice; measure first.

Miss Merry said...

You are so right. I have Pflatzgraff and the newer plates (not made in USA) fit perfectly fine in my dishwasher, but the original made in the USA ones are wider and I can only space them every other or they do not get clean. Lesson learned.

Kate Collins said...

And now my dryer is acting up! I think there's a virus spreading through my appliances.

Kate Collins said...

Thanks, Tonette. Good to know about the refrigerators because I love my GE Profile refrigerator. Well designed, roomy, everything I wanted and much better than the LG I had before. But this dishwasher -- ACK! I had a really good Bosch. I'll probably go back to them.

Tonette said...

Don't get a GE!

Kate Collins said...

Good to know! Thanks, Leann. This GE sucks!

Kate Collins said...

Bwa-ha-ha! You can bet on that.

Mary Jane Maffini said...

I feel your pain, Kate! Because of allergies I can't wash dishes by hand and got a dishwasher when we first got married. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

This year we had similar problems with our DW, a KitchenAid which was installed in our renovated house when we bought. It was leaving residue and ruining glasses too.

We tried everything until my daughter suggested using CLR (do you have that product in the USA?) to cover the bottom and running it through twice - once to clear out the CLR.
blockage and once to get rid of the CLR.

It has improved about 95 %. We will run it through another time, hoping to get rid of the last little bit of blockage or whatever.

The Hubster said that a ten dollar product just saved us seven hundred for a new dishwasher.

Great topic, by the way!

Hugs.

MJ

loveamystery said...

I actually have to wash my dishes before I put them in the dishwasher! Why? I was told they no longer heat the water so I have to turn the faucet on hot before I start the dishwasher, what! Costs more and does less, but I do more. I want an old new one! I also had a Jenn Aire cooktop with a grill set in my island. A man invented it. Want to know how I know, well, after you grill on the cooktop you can't lift the pan out to clean it you literally had to take a bucket over to it and sponge and clean it out. A woman would have thought of making the pan lift out. I wonder if they really believe they are making out lives easier.

emilia.m said...
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emilia.m said...

do you pour the CLR to the compartment for the detergent or just pour it at the bottom of the dishwasher?

emilia.m said...

for me it is a lottery - sometimes dishes are clean, sometimes there are a few with stuff baked on. No idea what it depends on, other than it seems to happen when I pack more stuff into it...

Jill said...

Is there a filter that needs to be cleared? We had the exact same problem, but the dishwasher at least had the decency to wait until it was 20 years old :) The CLR trick mentioned above does work. It helped for about a year. We just replaced the dishwasher a few months ago. New one is great!

Kate Collins said...

That's a great tip, Mary Jane. I will try it! We do have CLR here. Emilia, I will ask MaryJane and post her reply here.

Kate Collins said...

I can always tell when a man designs a kitchen layout, too. Women need to be consulted at least!!

Kate Collins said...

What kind did you buy, Jill? I don't know how to get to the filter but I'll bet I can google it! Thanks for the advice.

Mary Jane Maffini said...

Hi Emilia - we poured the entire (small) container in the bottom and let it sit for a couple of hours. Then ran it through and repeated with just water. This was my daughter's suggestion and it really worked. You really need to rinse it out once or twice as you can smell it and you don't want to be tasting it.

I'm not sure if it will work for everybody, but it sure did for us. Only after we had to replace ALL our glasses though.

Hugs.

MJ

Linda Cowan said...

Run away from GE! I had a GE Profile stove, the wiring caught fire. A friend's dishwasher caught fire. Defective wiring. Try to find out what is rated safest. These were eventually recalled but it took a long time. I quit using my stove, replaced it with Kenmore, no problems.

Leann Sweeney said...

Kitchenaid IS Whirlpool in many appliances now. The dishwasher Ellery Adams had so much trouble with was a Bosch. I think you can get a lemon in any appliance but like Tonette said, GE did make a good fridge. Mine was still going after 21 years when we left it behind in Texas. But GE is now out of the appliance business.

Anonymous said...

Today most appliance manufacturers are more closely linked corporately than the public realizes. For example, after acquiring Maytag in 2006, Whirlpool became the world's largest appliance company (Electrolux being #2). Whirlpool makes Maytag, KichenAid, JennAir, Inglis and Amana, among others. The move to all electronic control panels has meant most appliances last only 8 to 10 years, and the repair costs are too high ...... we have created this throw-away society. My Mum's original Frigidaire lasted 46 years (1952-98); my current one is showing signs of trouble after only 11. And the more gadgetry (ie water or ice dispenser), the more the likelihood of issues!
Nancy R in Ottawa

Not really said...

Does your dishwasher use a filter? The owners manual will tell you. If you don't have it check online. I have a GE potscrubber for 15 years now, and nary a problem. I use either Finish or Cascade, depending on which is on sale. I remove the big pieces of food. don't rinse. Dishes pile up over a 3 day period. Then I do.

Not really said...

Della at deepotter@peoplepc.com. Guess it would help if I left my name wouldn't it. So smell or anything. With todays cleaners you don't need JetDry or anything like that, it's already in the detergent

Jill said...

We got a Whirlpool. So far so good. And it is thrifty with the water, which is important when you live in a drought state. Good Luck!

Nicole said...

I've had 2 KitchenAid dishwashers (the first came with the house, the second we purchased), and a Bosch. I love everything about the Bosch except that it's smaller (I guess it's set up for European dishes or something, and we have 2 teenage boys so I do a lot of dishes!!!) but I would buy another one in a heartbeat if I had to replace the current one. My vote is for Bosch! :-)

Kate Collins said...

Maybe that's my problem. I'm going to run it with vinegar and see if that helps.

Kate Collins said...

OMG!!! And it used to be such a good product back in my mom's day. How sad.

Kate Collins said...

I agree, Nancy! Cars are the same way. More microchips and computers -- more problems. And our landfills are humongous. Sad.

Kate Collins said...

I don't think there's a filter but I'll check. And this dishwasher flashes when the rinse aid runs out, so I keep filling up the well. I also turned up my heat on the water tank to see if that helps. Something has to work!

Kate Collins said...

Thanks, Nicole. I really liked mine, and I have Corelle dishes, which are very slim and fit nicely. If this GE doesn't sit up and behave, Bosch it is!